and, you know, i stopped seeing tamerlan around. you know, i would see him around after high school. and about two years ago, i just stopped seeing him. i would ask friends. i would ask people that knew him, associates, where is tamerlan? what's up with him? how is he doing? no one seemed to know. they would assume i think he is back in his country. and then the latest update i got was on monday, and it was pretty horrific. i'm really curious and interested to know what happened in the past year or two that made them flip the switch into evil? >> jon: when the photos came out on thursday, did you recognize them? did you say wait a minute? that's dzhokhar? >> i did not. i did. no and the reason being, when i coached little brother, he had more of a baby face. and in the pixel lated atedo and i think pixel is the key word. hard to pick him out as somebody. he had more facial hair and more -- he had more scruffy look. and big brother, tamerlan, he hardly ever wore a hat. he had a hat on. he was cleanly shaven. he had the glasses on. an